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Mostly Dead vs. All Dead

June 20, 2009 by Andy Naselli

This video clip from The Princess Bride is my favorite light-hearted illustration of the Arminian view of human depravity (an issue integrally related to prevenient grace):

http://vimeo.com/28442042

This is the notable part of the exchange:

“Well it just so happens that your friend here is only mostly dead. There’s a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. . . . Now mostly dead is slightly alive. All dead—well, with all dead, there’s only usually one thing that you can do.”

“What’s that?”

“Go through his clothes and look for loose change.”

Another good illustration of the effectual call and regeneration:

Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!”

The dead man came out . . . . (John 11:43–44)

Recommended resources:

  1. William W. Combs, “Does the Bible Teach Prevenient Grace?” Detroit Baptist Seminary Journal 10 (2005): 3–18.
  2. John Piper, “Total Depravity,” in “TULIP” (a nine-part seminar available in audio and video), 2008.
  3. Thomas R. Schreiner, “Does Scripture Teach Prevenient Grace in the Wesleyan Sense?” in Still Sovereign: Contemporary Perspectives on Election, Foreknowledge, and Grace (ed. Thomas R. Schreiner and Bruce A. Ware; Grand Rapids: Baker, 2000), 229–46.

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  1. Deek Dubberly says

    June 20, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    Great movie. Great comparison! Thanks for sharing.

  2. Michael Bird says

    June 20, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Andy,
    I’ve also mentioned this part of the movie in sermons. Brilliant minds must think alike.

  3. Luke Harding says

    June 20, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    This was great. It gave me a good laugh. I will have to remember that in a future paper or something.

  4. Aaron Armstrong says

    June 23, 2009 at 6:40 am

    Very nice, sir. Gave me and my coworkers a good laugh yesterday.

  5. Angie Cheatham says

    June 23, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    This is hilarious, love it!

  6. Dan Phillips says

    June 24, 2009 at 7:44 am

    Another overlap ‘twixt us. An allusion to that scene is already in the manuscript of the book I’m working on, and in just this connection.

  7. Barry Wallace says

    October 6, 2009 at 9:29 am

    One of my favorite movies, apart from any subtle theological allusions, but great point nonetheless. Thanks!

  8. Mike Moses says

    January 26, 2012 at 8:53 am

    Paul Levy must have missed this post – he just discovered the same connection: http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2012/01/miracle-max-and-semipelagianis.php

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