Last month I noted that Mark Dever was scheduled to speak on campus at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School on Wednesday, January 30, 2008, for the Scripture and Ministry Lecture sponsored by the Henry Center.

1. His lecture on church membership is now available (MP3 | video). Here’s a description:
- “Re-ordering Friendship, Love, and Enmity: A Biblical Reflection on Church Membership.” Membership should reflect a living commitment to a local church in attendance, giving, prayer and service; otherwise it is meaningless, worthless, and even dangerous. What does the lack of church membership say to the rest of the world about the church? To be a member is knowingly to be traveling together as aliens and strangers in this world as we head to our heavenly home. Dr. Dever will explore church membership from a biblical and historical approach, touching on the most difficult issues, which keep many Americans from committing to church membership.
2. Also available as is a follow-up interview with Mark Dever on church discipline conducted by Steve Farish on January 31, 2008 (MP3 | video).
At the recent Leadership Summit held at Willow Creek’s main campus, Bill Hybels described some survey results with reference to Willow Creek as the wake-up call of his adult life. If you haven’t watched this already, I’d strongly encourage you to watch Bill Hybels in this eleven-minute video clip.
This weekend Willow Creek’s services are titled “Imagine Impact: Reveal Research” with Bill Hybels and his executive pastor, Greg Hawkins, speaking. We visited this evening and perceived a striking dissimilarity in tone from the video clip above. (That is surely due to the audience change, i.e., at the Leadership Summit he addressed leaders in a non-church setting, but tonight he addressed lay people in a church meeting.) At the end of this evening’s presentation, Hybels casually mentioned that his message at the Leadership Summit had caused a lot of reactions on the Internet and that he had decided not to respond to them via that media. Tonight he briefly responded by arguing unapologetically that Willow Creek prides itself in being honest and willing to admit when it has a bad idea. He insisted, however, that their fundamental philosophy remains unchanged.
(I’ll link to the weekend presentation if it becomes available here.)
Related: “A Sunday Morning at Willow Creek”
Update: Scot McKnight, who attends Willow Creek, comments on “Willow’s Reveal Study.”
As I mentioned previously, Jenni and I recently moved to Deerfield, IL and have been spending most of our Sundays at Lake Drive Baptist Church in Bay Side, WI, where I’ve been preaching/teaching three times each Sunday. A possible pastoral candidate is preaching there today, so this morning we decided to visit an (in)famous church: the main campus of Willow Creek Community Church located in South Barrington, IL, where Bill Hybels serves as the senior pastor. (For a very brief history of Willow Creek, click here.)
Rather than giving a blow-by-blow account with all of my impressions, I’ll keep my comments brief (drawing on some other exposure I’ve had as well, including attending services at two other Willow Creek campuses):
- Willow Creek’s building and parking lot are huge. It has the feel of a shopping mall. And this is an up-to-date shopping mall, complete with state-of-the-art accessories like escalators, elevators, dozens of flat screens, a food court, a bookstore, and first-class projectors and sound systems.
- Willow Creek’s service is well-planned. It is evident that they put a lot of thought into every little bit of the service, including seamless transitions.
- Willow Creek’s services seem more like a concert than a church’s worship service.
- Willow Creek’s speakers are skilled communicators. They demonstrate that they know the culture well.
- Willow Creek’s speakers are poor expositors. They do not demonstrate that they understand the Bible well. The question they attempt to answer seems to be “What can I say about this text/topic?” instead of “What does this text say?” or “What does the Bible say about this topic, and how does it address it across the Bible’s salvation-historical story-line?”
- Willow Creek’s general audience seems (I use that word carefully because I can’t be the final judge of this.) biblically illiterate and spiritually anemic.
- Willow Creek’s God reminds me more of a really kind, loving, influential, important friend rather than the unique, holy, transcendent, awesome Creator, Sustainer, and Judge of the universe. (Again, I’m not implying that every person who attends Willow Creek is an idolater! I’m simply sharing an impression I get from their “worship” service.)
I could say so much more. Instead, I’ll reference three of the most helpful related sources I’ve read:
- David M. Doran, “Market Driven Ministry: Blessing or Curse? Part 1,” Detroit Baptist Seminary Journal 1 (Spring 1996): 54-84.
- David M. Doran, “Market Driven Ministry: Blessing or Curse? Part 2,” Detroit Baptist Seminary Journal 1 (Fall 1996): 187-221.
- Gregory A. Pritchard, Willow Creek Seeker Services: Evaluating a New Way of Doing Church (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1996). This informative book is based on Pritchard’s dissertation. His research is especially valuable because it is fairly impartial.
This morning my wife and I visited College Church in Wheaton, IL, where Dr. R. Kent Hughes has been serving as the senior pastor (though he is phasing out as the church looks for a new senior pastor).
We just moved to Deerfield, IL in early August and since then have been spending most of our Sundays at Lake Drive Baptist Church in Bay Side, WI, where I’ve been preaching/teaching three times each Sunday. A possible pastoral candidate is preaching there today, so we decided to drive 50 minutes southwest to visit a historic church and hear a godly man who has authored many books, some quite influential. (For more background on Dr. Hughes, see this two-part interview by Jason Janz: part 1, part 2.)
We really liked the worship service, more than any I can remember in recent memory. The main reason is that everything about it was God-centered. God is great, and I love participating in worship that exults in God’s greatness. I tried to think of the specific factors that contributed to this God-centered worship (in order of my impressions as a visitor—not necessarily importance):
- The building’s architecture: The auditorium is beautiful, elegant, majestic, grand, exalted. Illustration: When I was a child, one of the rooms in our house was off-limits. It was a sitting room with my parents’ most elegant furniture, and we were not allowed to go in there. It was reserved for special occasions. That’s what College Church’s auditorium felt like: a special room for a special occasion, i.e., worshipping God.
- The people: For the most part, the church (i.e., the people) contributed to this by their demeanor and dress. They did not have the overly serious demeanor of monks, nor were they slapping each other on the back talking about the latest ballgames. Their modest, formal dress appropriately communicated that they were serious about worship.
- The music: The music was tastefully conservative—every bit as conservative, if not more so, as churches I’ve attended in the past (e.g., FBC of Troy and MCBC). One aspect I especially liked is that when we sang hymns, the organist lead us. No one stood in the pulpit and waved his arms or interrupted the hymn by cutting out verses or interjecting comments. This allows you to focus on the words you’re singing rather than the tempo of the song leader. (By these comments I’m not saying that I reject the use of a songleader! One of my best friends, Scott Aniol, is a songleader, and a skilled songleader can be quite helpful. Often, however, that is not the case.)
- The order of worship: It was evident that a lot of thought goes into a worship service at College Church. On Saturday evening I downloaded the Sunday bulletin as a PDF and mentally prepared for the service. Because the order is written out and everyone receives a bulletin when entering the auditorium, there is no need to announce what it coming next. For example, no one announces the hymn number. The service is fluid. It all fits. The Scripture reading, hymns, and sermon are a package with a unified message.
- The pastor: Dr. Hughes preached the word. He was simultaneously humble, dignified, sober, friendly, and pastoral. After his sermon on Philippians 4:14-20, the closing hymn, and his benediction, we were all seated for a minute or two of silent reflection and prayer. No come-forward invitation. If someone wants counsel, he may seek it at the front of the auditorium after the service—not during it. I love that, not least because it forces everyone to respond to God’s preached words.
I’m aware that there are pros and cons to these thoughts, and I don’t mean to imply that this is the only way to worship God in any culture. But in my culture and limited experience, this is one of the most positive experiences I’ve ever had worshipping God with a church on the Lord’s day.
Grace to you!